8G vr4 soft to hard piping

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8G vr4 soft to hard piping

Bericht door MD » 11 mei 2014, 13:34

Dit is wel een mooie topic om wat van te leren of uiteraard om zelf aan de hobby te gaan.
Eigenlijk staat alles er, je kunt zo aan de bak.
Ik heb dit topic eerlijk gejat van clubvr4. :D :D :D :D

Well, seeing people on forum still interested in hard pipes I decided to put here bit of guidance how to built your own hard pipe kit.

What's needed?
1. some skills in cutting aluminium pipes
2. aluminium pipes (i.e. off eBay)
3. silicone couplers
4. two 6mm (1/4 bsp) brass hose fittings
5. metal weld adhesive
6. mikalor style clamps

Actually there 3 sections of rubber hoses which we want to replace by aluminium ones.

1. Section off rear turbo.
Requires:
1x 51mm (2") aluminium elbow (150mm leg), I've found one on eBay for 13.65 GBP, here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/51mm-2-Alumini...item4cefd3e443" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2x 51mm (2") silicone couplers straight, 3.50 GBP each here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLUE-Silicone-...item20b1c9bddb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
4x mikalor style clamps size 54 to 64mm
Aluminium elbow needs to be cut to size both legs.

2. Section from y-pipe to intercooler (next to coolant expansion tank)
That's a tricky bit, because there's wired angle and it's very hard to find right size aluminium bit of pipe. After several attempts and trys I've found on US eBay aluminium elbow 70 degree bend.
That's fits perfectly, but it's only available in 70mm ID, not 63mm. Doesn't actually matter. Otherwise you have to buy 45 degree elbow of 63mm ID pipe and using mandrel bend one to 65 degree (custom exhaust shops/garages?). Well back to the point.
We need:
1x 70 degree aluminium elbow, which I found only 70mm ID from that site (29 GBP):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1x 70mm to 63mm silicone elbow reducer 45 degree (12.30 GBP), here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Silicon-Hose-4...item1e58d276ae" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1x 70mm to 63mm silicone straight reducer (5.30 GBP), here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Silicone-Hose-...item2c55f4eece" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2x mikalor style clamps size 67 to 75mm
2x mikalor style clamps size 73 to 81mm
Obviously aluminium and silicone elbows need to be cut to size. And job is done.

3. Section from intercooler pipe to throttle body (including plastic elbow).
Another tricky bit. It's because same story with getting right angle due to airbox, but also because we are replacing plastic elbow with two vacuum outlets. So, we need:
1x 70mm aluminium elbow 70 degree (same story as in above), which I've found for 29 GBP here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1x 70mm to 63mm silicone straight reducer (5.30 GBP), here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Silicone-Hose-...item2c55f4eece" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1x 70mm silicone elbow 135 degree (15.40 GBP), here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/70mm-2-75-Sili...item4aa2321362" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
3x mikalor style clamps size 73 to 81mm
1x mikalor style clamp size 67 to 75mm
Silicone 135 degree elbow needs little cut to size, also one leg of aluminium elbow needs to be trimmed down.

Now, important part - making vacuum outlets. We need:
2x brass hose fittings 6mm (1/4 bsp), like that one (2 GBP each):
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-8-bsp-6mm-Br...item4cf030af8e" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1x "metal weld" adhesive, it can't be any epoxy-like adhesive, must be one which creates strong bond to metal. I've found this one superb (4.75 GBP)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Quick-Steel-Me...item19b33f5863" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So, after all measures of aluminium elbow and cut to size:
- drill two holes same size as thread size on brass hose fittings. IIRC it was 10mm. Remember to mark where you need these holes. Get proper alignment.
- cut thread off fittings leaving just 2mm of threads.
- using recommended "metal weld" adhesive, glue both hose fittings, and wait 24 hrs to get full bond strength.
Well, that's how to make one piece of aluminium section from TB to IC.

My recommended site to get not expensive clamps is here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-x-ANYSIZE-IN...item20b228a375" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's it. Cost of total material (pipes, silicones, clamps) is approx. 143 GBP.

Time for pictures and description (some of pictures just for illustration purposes):
1. "metal weld" adhesive
2. prepared pipe for vacumm outlets (overall view)
3. prepared pipe for vacumm outlets (inside view)
4. pipe with done vacuums
5. hard pipe next to coolant expansion tank fitted
6. hard pipe next to airbox fitted
7. vacuum fittings as should be
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Re: 8G vr4 soft to hard piping

Bericht door miss_laatjuh » 11 mei 2014, 14:13

Wel eens tegen gekomen ja ..super makkelijk voor mensen die niet weten wat ze exact nodig hebben of niet weten hoe dit te doen (mensen zoals ik) goede aanvulling op gf ook !!

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Re: 8G vr4 soft to hard piping

Bericht door marksanne » 12 mei 2014, 10:36

Mooi topic, alleen geen van de linkjes werkt Mark.
driving the first VR2 in NL since 2006 (project VR2)

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Re: 8G vr4 soft to hard piping

Bericht door MD » 12 mei 2014, 12:30

Haha
Ik heb ze zo gekopieerd.
Zal ze vanavond ff goed neer zetten
huidig MOTION met swapped V6 en CC
VR4 engine build voor de motion, en V6 swap completed
RIP 8G met EVO TME engine
en 6 donor galants verder

Co-founder of galantfans

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Bericht door Mr. green » 12 mei 2014, 15:15

Ik heb dikkere hard piping denk ik. Ziet er goed uit!

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Re: 8G vr4 soft to hard piping

Bericht door MarkDuffy » 21 mei 2014, 20:43

nog een tip voor mensen die losse nieuwe stukken kopen.. zorg dat ze gefelst zijn, dan trekken de buizen lang niet zo snel krom bij het aantrekken ervan.

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8G vr4 soft to hard piping

Bericht door Raulkic » 19 mei 2019, 17:17

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